Anyone been out today? Part II...

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby JAA » Sat May 16, 2020 8:04 pm

GarryProcter wrote:Well done everyone. JAA, I presume you didn't follow Mr Mole's example and eat that chub :cool:

No!!!!

(I have eaten a pike from here tho'...)
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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Mr Mole » Sun May 17, 2020 8:17 am

Walked down to the river early for a quick fish, had a lovely coloured brownie around 11/2lb, returned and then back for breakfast. A good start to the day but still a lot of day to go!

JAA, I see that you have been "messing about" with your Harrison Avon, those extra tips is quite a good idea. I'm saying that because I have the same rod and lots of assorted bits and tips - pretty sure I have a few whole harrosons fly rod tips as well, must check. But wondered what you used for cut down tip sections, I might give it a go.
Although I like the Avon rod (4 piece is very handy), the tip is nothing like as sensitive as the Harrison GTi that I usually use, maybe I should "mess about" with it as well :idea:

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby JAA » Sun May 17, 2020 8:51 am

Mr Mole wrote:Walked down to the river early for a quick fish, had a lovely coloured brownie around 11/2lb, returned and then back for breakfast. A good start to the day but still a lot of day to go!

A bit surpised the trout wasn't breakfast, with a few fried mushrooms... :cool:
Mr Mole wrote:JAA, I see that you have been "messing about" with your Harrison Avon, those extra tips is quite a good idea. I'm saying that because I have the same rod and lots of assorted bits and tips - pretty sure I have a few whole harrosons fly rod tips as well, must check. But wondered what you used for cut down tip sections, I might give it a go.
Although I like the Avon rod (4 piece is very handy), the tip is nothing like as sensitive as the Harrison GTi that I usually use, maybe I should "mess about" with it as well :idea:


I made one tip from a JWAvon 'combo' rod I found in one of they new fangled pawn shops, 'Cash Robbers' or 'Loan Sharks'r'Us' or something, really just for tiddler snatching, and the latest one from a rather better rod.

The tricky bits are cutting the 'new tip down to exactly the right fit (it really is best to proceed about a quarter inch at a time) and then to ensure a fit on the exsting spigot...which of course you may not change...

I've got a pile of off-cuts and bits and bobs (an old roach-pole top three, found rod sections and so on), and I use a micrometer to find something with the same taper of the existing spigot and then make a cutting tool by glueing a 5mm strip of P400 grit around the offcut. You need to use this with care and cut a little, clean out the 'female' end with wet kitchen towel or similar and then try the fit and so on.

I admit I did look at the 'solid' spliced tip for my GTI and think it would fit nicely on the 4 Piece Avon... :text-tumbleweed:

[In case anyone think all this stuff alway works, I've recently completely broken up three such experiments that didn't work at all and at least two others in the past became 'raw materials for the next crazy idea'. :boxoffrogs: :boxoffrogs: ]
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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Mr Mole » Tue May 26, 2020 7:44 pm

Guess who went fishing today? :test-smileyfishing:

First time this year up top end of reservoir, involved 18 mile round trip on the pushbike carrying my gear and a walk but worth it.

Worth it to hear the raven sitting on a dead tree branch (quite a long way off) croacking at me for over an hour every time I moved. Also the cuckoo who had an faint echo far off the other side, but was determined to have the last word, was quite hilarious after a while and I think it only gave up when it's voice went :cheesy grin:

Fresh trout for tea and damn god they were too.
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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby maggotdrowner » Thu May 28, 2020 11:44 am

Nice trout, Mr Mole.

I went out yesterday to visit a new acquisition of my club. Turned out to be a lovely little pool. I hared rumours of crucians, which I was hoping for really. But, as in all my fishing, I'm happy to catch anything.

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However, I think I lost a crucian on my first bite. Something gold and round was on for a little while, but fell off the hook. I then had to switch to putting the bulk of the shot towards the bottom of the line because the wind got up. I don't like doing this, especial if trying to catch crucians. Obviously this means lift bites. And when the next bite was happening I was so dumbfounded by the lifting motion I hit it far too late! banghead.gif


In the evening the wind dropped again and so I shot the float normally again. The swim as alive with pinprick bubbles. The shallow water was fizzing away like the cliched cauldron. You could see the movement of the feeding fish by following the bubbles! I landed the fish which gave the bite. But it was a king carp! Not the crucian I really wanted, but a lovely common in fine condition. He put a nice bend in the Floatcaster and made my day anyway.

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I was amazed to find I had the lake to myself all day. Perfect!

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby maggotdrowner » Sat May 30, 2020 10:53 am

Out again yesterday, chasing crucians. They hid well and avoided me all afetrnoon and evening. I did have some lovely tench though and enjoyed the sunshine by another lovely pool. Lots of foxgloves on the banks of this one.

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If anyone knows of a good, day ticket crucian waters in Cheshire or even in the surrounding counties I'd be interested to hear about it. I am planning one of my regular trips down to Warwickshire for crucians later in the year but I feel it's still too soon with the nasty things goings on in recent months to make that trip yet.

Where are you :carassius  carassius: ???

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby JAA » Sun May 31, 2020 1:06 pm

maggotdrowner wrote:Out again yesterday, chasing crucians. They hid well and avoided me all afetrnoon and evening. I did have some lovely tench though and enjoyed the sunshine by another lovely pool. Lots of foxgloves on the banks of this one.


That's a fine looking pools MD. :text-hat-tip:

maggotdrowner wrote:If anyone knows of a good, day ticket crucian waters in Cheshire or even in the surrounding counties I'd be interested to hear about it. I am planning one of my regular trips down to Warwickshire for crucians later in the year but I feel it's still too soon with the nasty things goings on in recent months to make that trip yet.

Where are you :carassius  carassius: ???

Take a look here:

http://crucians.org/html/crucian_fisheries.php

:carassius  carassius: :carassius  carassius:

I fished at the Wetland last Friday and it was blistering hot, but I nipped out a couple of small tench and some (very very gold) rudd. I fear that these little pools will go from 'too cold' to 'too hot' without the usual comforartable fishing month between... :greedyfish: I'll have another go one evening this week.

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This odd panorama is from between ponds '4' and '5'
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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Leigh » Sun May 31, 2020 7:46 pm

Driving through Wimborne and Ringwood earlier the rivers looked so appealing, not long to go for those venturing out on the 16th.

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby maggotdrowner » Sun May 31, 2020 8:22 pm

Thanks JAA. I have used that crucian website in the past. I am a member of Lymm and some of the ones that site mentions I have fished and have photographed above.

Looks like you have some lovely lakes there too!

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Mr Mole » Sun May 31, 2020 9:18 pm

Golden rudd take some beating, they are in one of our lakes (but seem fewer each year, probably breeding out) mixed with ordinary rudd (which are beautiful too), even when looking at a shoal on the surface the golden ones stand out from the others.

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby champ » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:45 am

I used to catch golden rudd on a slow stretch above a mill on the river Parrett in somerset.I went back twenty years later to see if they had still bred and was delighted to find that they had and were still numerous.
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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Mr Mole » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:46 pm

Question for someone clever, how did they become golden? Was it for ornamental ponds?

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby DaceAce » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:39 am

Mr Mole wrote:Question for someone clever, how did they become golden? Was it for ornamental ponds?

It's just a genetic error and in the wild perhaps one in a thousand is a golden rudd. It's not hard to selectively breed them over a couple of decades to get pretty much all golden ones.

There's another variant that I call yellow-finned rudd. richard Walker mentions them in one of his books and I've had a few over the years.

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Postby DaceAce » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:43 am

And another one:

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Mr Mole » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:58 pm

I presumed the goldens were selectively bred for the ornamental market, they do seem to turn up in numbers in some ponds so I guess they are stocked with ordinary rudd and slowly breed back over generations but always throwing up a few true golden?
I have never come across the yellow finned rudd, or if I have I've not noticed because I haven't been looking!

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Mr Mole » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:07 pm

First day watching a float yesterday, visited my local day ticket fishery that had opened (by appointment only). I went on the small tench lake, which hasn't seen an angler since the autumn and had it to myself.
Enjoyable day with the float, by the end I had 3 decent tench (in the 2-3lb bracket), probably 40 baby tench around 1/2lb and lots of rudd and roach, topped by a rudd of over the pound :thumbs-up:
Weather deteriorated through the day with showers and becoming colder, so by 6.30 I had enough and headed for home. Might have another go next week when it warms again, another couple of weeks till the next review in Wales - I hope we can travel then.

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby JAA » Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:56 am

Back to the tiny ponds Friday, many many (many) rudd and a couple of nice tench, plus a dozen or so tiny ones. Good fun.
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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Mr Mole » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:02 pm

Thursday saw me back to the local ticket water, phone the day before and book. I went back to the little :tincatinca: pond and the owner gave me a keepnet to retain any roach, rudd under about 8oz, the plan being to reduce the fish stock and maybe the tench will have a look in at the food and gain condition. Ultimately they want a water with tench, crucians (rarely seen) and some good size roach & rudd for the winter.
To that end I mainly fished in the top layer, wheat as bait and caught steadily through the day, had an hour on the bottom and caught usual baby tench but no bigger ones. Later as sport slowed I turned to large lumps of flake near the weeds and tempted out some decent rudd, plus two good tench that came up through the water for the bait - took me by surprise!

I have not used a keepnet in 40 years so it took a bit of getting used to, remember to throw the fish into the net and try to hit the net, not my strong point :Beammeup: but by the 6pm just before it started to rain I packed up and had a peak. Net was a bit heavy so I left it where it was, reported back that I had caught a few and they may need sorting tonight.

Arrived home, unpacked, poured gin and the phone went, "Had I any idea what weight of fish was in there" I had not a clue but apparently it was 50lbs of decent roach and rudd. Bearing in mind I chucked back the bigger fish and tench that made a good days sport and accounted for why I was knackered. I wouldn't want to do that too often :test-smileyfishing:

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby GarryProcter » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:16 pm

Well done JAA and Mr. Mole.

I once watched some nice tench taking emerging buzzers in a trout lake that also contained loads of coarse fish. At first I just saw the 'rises' and cast for them thinking they were trout. But once I got my eye in I could see clearly that they were tench! I stopped casting and started watching. It was as interesting as it was unexpected.

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Re: Anyone been out today? Part II...

Postby Weyfarer » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:18 pm

I had a few hours on our lake and after some freebies I had the swim fizzing. Caught three tench and lost one, several small common and mirror carp and some good roach from 8 to 12 ounces.

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